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  • Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

    Hi Everyone,
    Thanks for such a great resource! This forum has given me the courage to try my hand at building a pizza oven (and a fireplace). I am building this onto my garage where I have transformed an old gravel drive (weedtrap) into a lovely patio. The majority of my oven dome will be built into a garage bay with the front only protruding about 2 feet out from the wall. I am going to build a 36" rumford fireplace next to my oven and will build a double flue chimney to accommodate them both.

    I am at the point now where I have just framed for the concrete floor and will be doing the pour tomorrow morning if the weather holds. I am going to be building my oven out of soapstone which is very heavy, so I have put a block wall in the center of my stand and will be pouring the concrete floor to 5.5" thick instead of the 3.5 recommended.

    I picked up a large bag (350 lbs) of vermiculite last week at Virginia Vermiculite. Check out the size of that "pouch" in the back of my truck! This should take care of my needs for this project with some left over for the garden.

    I am getting soapstone from a local quarry and should have enough for the oven and fireplace at this point (I've made a few more runs since taking the attached picture).

    I was thinking about doing a soapstone veneer on the outside of this structure as well but recently paid a visit to Frasier Quarry in Harrisonburg (Limestone). I think I am sold on their Stonewall Grey Frazier Quarry: History of Stonewall Grey: The Valley as an exterior veneer although I still might use the soapstone for the chimney (with a liner).

    Wish me luck on my pour tomorrow, my wife and I are going to be mixing and pouring individually, 60 lbs at a time.

    The pic of the fountain was last years project and is positioned next to where the oven and fireplace is going. It was a find on ebay from Pennsylvania. I built the catchment basin out of the same soapstone I am using for the oven and fireplace. The Fountain itself is 100-300 years old and was hand crafted from sandstone by a Hessian immigrant. Hopefully my finished project will not have too many different types of stone.
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    Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

    Chestnut,



    Welcome and thanks for sharing your plans on yet another groundbreaking oven design. I am most interested to watch your build. Do you have your plans drawn up yet?

    Now that's a bag of vermiculite!

    John

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    • #3
      Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

      My wife and I were able to pour the slab this morning. It came out pretty good I think (although I haven't taken down the form yet. How long do I need to keep the stilts and platform under the floor?

      I started cutting brick from my scrap soapstone rubble. I am going to use the thinner stuff (1.25" thick) and remnants from the bigger stuff to do a thin herringbone for the fireplace floor, walls, and back.

      Next step is pouring the vermiculite crete. I believe that I have read that you want 4" of this stuff. Is there any reason not to go thicker? I'm thinking about 6" as it will bring the floor up so I don't have to bend down to slide the pizzas in and out (plus the extra insulation can't hurt).

      John, Thanks for the welcome. I haven't drawn up any plans at this point. I have been reading through the forum and have been saving pictures of my favorites though.
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      • #4
        Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

        Wow, just looked at the date of my last post, it has been a while since I last worked on this oven! To many projects and vacations I guess. I just returned from 3 weeks in southern italy eating wood fired pizza, so this oven project now has priority again . My wife and I poured our insulating pad and finished cutting our soapstone floor this weekend. I used a couple of my larger scrap pieces for a prime pizza cooking area.

        I'm renewing my permit this week and inviting the inspector out to talk about clearances before I go any further. I'll post as I plow through this project.

        --Doug
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        • #5
          Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

          Wow Doug,

          How nice would it be to have access to all that surplus soapstone, would give my eye teeth to be able to put some in my oven. If you build is anything like the fountain than I will be really cool. Going to keep an eye on your build.

          Russell

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          • #6
            Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

            Hi all, So vacations turned in to having a kid, now spring is here and the wife wants that ugly patio finally finished which mostly just means that I have to finally finish this outdoor kitchen/oven that is on the side of our garage.

            So, yesterday I finally got the courage to mix up a batch of heatstop and laid my solider corse. Since I am using soapstone (very smooth when cut) for this project I went ahead and scored all the sides that are being mortared together to create a little extra bond.

            Since this is such a big oven and is using soapstone (heavy) I am thinking about wrapping a stainless steel chain around the solider corse and tying it into the base bricks that make the oven opening (fairly large stones). What do you think? thinking about just carving a notch (see pic) for a stainless u bolt on each side with a chain attached wrapping the oven. I'll carve the notch a little roomy (and stuff some cardboard over it) so that the metal and stone don't conflict with heat.

            I have a bit of cutting to do but really hope that I can get this thing done. Wish me luck.

            --Doug
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            • #7
              Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

              Scoring was a good idea. If you are building a Pompeii oven ( hemispherical dome ) you don't need a reinforcment band around your soldier.

              But if you really want too, I won't recommend attaching the band to anything else other than something anchored into your structural slab.
              Old World Stone & Garden

              Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

              When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
              John Ruskin

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              • #8
                Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                Also, I think you're going to want centering (a form) for your upper coursing. Soapstone won't allow the mortar to 'grab' like brick and gravity will fight you the higher you go.
                Old World Stone & Garden

                Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

                When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
                John Ruskin

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                • #9
                  Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                  Thanks for the advice StoneCutter, I attached the chain yesterday afternoon so I might cut it and bolt some heavy duty shelf brackets into my base next to my insulation pad instead. Time will tell if I made a big mistake embedding those u-bolts into my stone. I started on my second course and noticed that the bricks want to slide off and i'll have to make some sort of form.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                    Are you in western VA? I'm wondering where you got your soapstone.
                    Old World Stone & Garden

                    Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

                    When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
                    John Ruskin

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                    • #11
                      Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                      Yeah, picked up two pickup truck loads from Alberene quarry when they had their rubble pile open for picking ($35 per load )

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                      • #12
                        Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                        Nice. I suspected it was maybe Alberene or maybe black pearl. Do they open up picking regularly?
                        Last edited by stonecutter; 05-05-2015, 05:39 AM.
                        Old World Stone & Garden

                        Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

                        When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
                        John Ruskin

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                        • #13
                          Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                          It has been closed since they started mining on site (a year ago I think). I think the price went up as well but I will be jumping on it if it opens again.

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                            Re: Chestnut's 42" soapstone oven & rumford

                            Nice start on the oven, Doug. I still can't imagine what your back felt like after moving the weight of two truckloads of soapstone.

                            Keep the pics coming.

                            John

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