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  • Oven Build 900mm - NZ

    Well Like most visitors to this great site. We ended up with the "build an oven bug". We are in New Zealand and it's a right bugger to find proper materials and a small miracle if it's even cost effective...

    Any way oven will be 900mm internal (~35")

    So far we have....
    200mm (~8") Reinforced foundation slab.
    100mm (~4") 5:1 Perlite/cement insulating layer.

    Still deciding on material i.e. brick or cast due to availability and Cost.

    Regards
    Bart
    Attached Files
    http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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    Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

    Originally posted by wemme View Post
    Well Like most visitors to this great site. We ended up with the "build an oven bug". We are in New Zealand and it's a right bugger to find proper materials and a small miracle if it's even cost effective...

    Any way oven will be 900mm internal (~35")

    So far we have....
    200mm (~8") Reinforced foundation slab.
    100mm (~4") 5:1 Perlite/cement insulating layer.

    Still deciding on material i.e. brick or cast due to availability and Cost.

    Regards
    Bart
    Bricks are not cheap in NZ, but I think cast is going to work out even more expensive. To save money, you could cut your bricks in 3's, rather than in halves. You won't get as much retained heat (but that's only going to be an issue if you want to bake lots of bread) but then again, you also should get quicker heat up times. Its all a matter of choices.

    Cheers

    Peter.

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    • #3
      Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

      I am building mine (80cm) from refractory cement from placemakers in huntly.$55 per 25kg bag.Probably looking at 8-10 bags.stll alot cheaper and more fun than buying one tho.
      My refractory cast oven
      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f43/...ven-14201.html

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      • #4
        Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

        Hey Swampy,
        Sounds good, keep us in the loop...
        Unfortunately only master trade stock it here in Christchurch at $65+gst.
        But i think your right and about 10 bags will do the job.
        What are your dimensions going to be?

        Any how after Fridays earth quake i need to fix the house first
        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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        • #5
          Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

          hope your house isnt too bad,was a nasty quake allright.
          I just started up a build thread here if your keen to follow.

          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f43/...ven-14201.html
          My refractory cast oven
          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f43/...ven-14201.html

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          • #6
            Scored some bricks hopefully they will do the job.

            I Managed to pick up these bricks today about 350-400 for $200NZD normally $4.5+gst each. they are made by a local brick manufacturer and used to line their kilns. they are made from "high" Al2O3 content Clay mixed with aggregates. they are 230x110x75mm @3.6Kgs so work out at about 2000-2100Kg/m2 which seems okayish however I'm still a little concerned about their specific heat capacity. I hope to test these as soon as possible any one done this before?

            Regards
            Bart
            Attached Files
            http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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            • #7
              Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

              they should be fine.if they are used to line their kilns they should be the go.
              i just got some refractory concrete from troweltrade who got it from crow refractory.i got it home and its got shinagawa stamped all over it.wish i could go straight through them since they are just down the road.
              My refractory cast oven
              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f43/...ven-14201.html

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              • #8
                Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                Hey Swampy,
                Yeah it looks like they make all the castable in NZ and yes they are a pack of bastards for not selling direct. still at least you can make a start now. I'm just starting on a test to see if these bricks are any good, will really loose my rag if these are insulating...
                Regards
                Bart
                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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                • #9
                  Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                  you can tell if they are insulating by the weight.if they are light and smash easy with a hammer and the insides are like honeycomb,with lots of air pockets they are insulating but i think your fine.
                  My refractory cast oven
                  http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f43/...ven-14201.html

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                  • #10
                    Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                    Finially between the earthquake, weather, family and work. The build continues.
                    Tomorow i should have all the base fire bricks in and the dome support structure finished. I will curve some 3mm mdf over the area for the doorway and staple it in place.

                    Comments??

                    Regards
                    Bart
                    Attached Files
                    http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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                    • #11
                      .More photos

                      Floor complete. Placed the bricks on a 50/50 fireclay sand mix.
                      I'm finishing the form today. once bricked around i hope to burn it out.
                      Cheers
                      Attached Files
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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                      • #12
                        Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                        greetings guys

                        I have just started a build here in Rotorua. I started with a plan from the shed magazine and then by luck I lost it, just after I had the structural slab poured. so I had to do some further research and found this site. Glad that I did.
                        I have just poured my first insulation layer for the base and are going to lay some fire bricks on it tomorrow. I have decided to go for a clay brick for the dome due to the crazy prices of fire bricks. How did your perlite and cement mix work out. Mine is really brittle. well hope that your builds are going well.

                        Cheers

                        Kris

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                        • #13
                          Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                          Where did you get your fire clay from?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                            Hey bart
                            that is looking really good. I have just started a oven here in Rotorua. check out my other threads as to the progress. how soft and brittle was your perlite and cement mix?
                            Cheers
                            Kris

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                            • #15
                              Re: Oven Build 900mm - NZ

                              Hey Kris,
                              Yes the shed mag is crap at best. I've only bought a few copies over the years and have been most disapointed by it generally.

                              I picked up my fire clay from a brick factory down here in chch that make firebricks also.
                              I'm not sure what so good about it vs normal clay?.
                              Mine looked like soil but as soon as you work with it is definately clay.

                              yeah my perlite is pretty brittle too i did 1:5 for the base insulation, I'm still a little worried about it's strength try not to neil on it or anything the wieght will break it up.

                              I think kiwipyro is up your way (huntly?) who may be able to advise on local suppliers.
                              All the Best.
                              Regards
                              Bart
                              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f2/o...-nz-14012.html

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