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  • Strange question from work

    A co-worker asked me today if when we are making pizzas in our WFO's do we consider it "cooking pizza" or "baking pizza". I think most would go with cooking, but they tried to make the argument that we are considered bakers when doing our pizzas.
    I just wanted to see what others thought.

  • #2
    Re: Strange question from work

    TE,

    My two cents: no matter how you cut it, pizza is essentially a yeasted, very thin bread, and you bake bread.

    Jim
    "Made are tools, and born are hands"--William Blake, 1757-1827

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    • #3
      Re: Strange question from work

      Originally posted by CanuckJim View Post
      TE,

      My two cents: no matter how you cut it, pizza is essentially a yeasted, very thin bread, and you bake bread.

      Jim
      I'll second that.
      James
      Pizza Ovens
      Outdoor Fireplaces

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      • #4
        Re: Strange question from work

        Seems to me that baking is a more specific term than cooking. Both are correct technically, but to say "I'm cooking pizza" sounds very odd to me.

        Baking, braising, broiling, boiling, poaching, frying... they're all cooking, of course, but most of them would surely do very odd things to a pizza ready for the oven.

        So I vote for baking too.

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        • #5
          Re: Strange question from work

          Never gave this much thought. My usual response when my wife asks what are we having for dinner is "I'm making pizza", I've never said "I'm baking" or I'm cooking". If you twist my arm I will say "baking", for all of the previously mentioned reasons.

          RT

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          • #6
            Re: Strange question from work

            My wife makes pizza. I toss pizza. Pizza is in a cooking class all by itself and therefore should have unique terms.

            Bruce
            Sharpei Diem.....Seize the wrinkle dog

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            • #7
              Re: Strange question from work

              Sounds like a trick question....another brain exercise eh?
              Sharing life's positives and loving the slow food lane

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              • #8
                Re: Strange question from work

                Baking is the technique of prolonged cooking of food by dry heat acting by conduction, and not by radiation, normally in an oven, but also in hot ashes, or on hot stones.[1] It is primarily used for the preparation of bread, cakes, pastries and pies, tarts, and quiches. Such items are sometimes referred to as "baked goods," and are sold at a bakery. A person who prepares baked goods as a profession is called a baker. It is also used for the preparation of baked potatoes; baked apples; baked beans; some pasta dishes, such as lasagne; and various other foods, such as the pretzel.

                Many domestic ovens are provided with two heating elements: one for baking, using convection and conduction to heat the food; and one for broiling or grilling, heating mainly by radiation. Meat may be baked, but is more often roasted, a similar process, using higher temperatures and shorter cooking times.

                The baking process doen not add any fat to the product, and producers of snack products such as potato chips are also beginning to replace the process of deep-frying with baking in order to reduce the fat content of their products.

                Here's the rest: Baking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                GJBingham
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                • #9
                  Re: Strange question from work

                  Un momentito,
                  I went further. Apparently baking is a subset of cooking, in the dry cooking category (who knew?):

                  Cooking techniques

                  Heat-based techniques
                  The following use exposure to heat to prepare food for consumption:

                  -Dry cooking

                  Baking
                  Barbecuing
                  Broiling
                  Grilling
                  FlashBake
                  Roasting
                  Rotisserie
                  Searing
                  Toast

                  -Water-based cooking (Boiling)

                  Blanching
                  Braising
                  Coddling
                  Creamed
                  Double steaming
                  Infusion
                  Parboiling
                  Poaching
                  Simmering
                  Steaming
                  Steeping
                  Stewing

                  -Oil-based cooking (Frying)

                  Deep frying
                  Hot salt frying
                  Hot sand frying
                  Pan frying
                  Sautéing
                  Stir frying

                  I'm hungry looking at this list. I think I will hot sand fry a racoon for a mid-night snack!
                  Last edited by gjbingham; 05-05-2008, 10:37 PM.
                  GJBingham
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                  • #10
                    Re: Strange question from work

                    like I said.....another brain exercise
                    Sharing life's positives and loving the slow food lane

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                    • #11
                      Re: Strange question from work

                      In Russian we have the same curious issue - we never say "to fry blini (pancakes )", but only "to bake blini"
                      I see here a kind of similarity, since both blini and pizza have common shape - flat and round - so it might be a root of the phenomenon!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Strange question from work

                        I vote for baking. We went camping one weekend. Of course we were hungry for pizza. Pick one up on the way. By the time we got to our camp and set up. It was cold. So we laid it across our hotdog forks and heated it up over the camp fire. Would that pizza be roasted?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Strange question from work

                          Another country heard from. How about my Southern friends whose deep fried lexicon offers up......I'm fixin' pizza.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Strange question from work

                            Isn't just a kind of attempt to forbear from making straight decision - "cook" or "bake" ?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Strange question from work

                              And isn't pizza referred to as a 'pie' and we bake pies.

                              J W

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